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Here's What I Learned: Ditching Biz-as-Usual for Values, Freedom, and Doing It Your Way
Welcome to Here's What I Learned, the podcast for progressive entrepreneurs ready to grow their businesses without sacrificing their values, creativity, or sanity. Hosted by me, Jacki Hayes—a systems strategist, unapologetic smutty romantasy fan, and D&D geek—this show is your go-to space for honest conversations about what it really takes to create a business and life you love.
Each week, we dive into relatable stories and actionable lessons from values-driven leaders who’ve figured out how to scale sustainably while staying true to themselves. Whether you’re managing growth, navigating overwhelm, or rethinking hustle culture, this podcast is here to show you that success doesn’t have to mean burnout.
If you value integrity, autonomy, and time freedom—and you’re looking for inspiration that’s as practical as it is empowering—you’ve found your people. Hit play, and let’s rewrite the rules together.
Here's What I Learned: Ditching Biz-as-Usual for Values, Freedom, and Doing It Your Way
Reimagining HR for Small Businesses with Kirsten Ziegler
What happens when an HR pro leaves the corporate grind to build a business rooted in ethics, empathy, and real talk? In this episode, I sit down with Kirsten Ziegler, an HR consultant who’s rewriting the rules of people management for small business owners. From navigating the difference between contractors and employees (without a legal headache) to building better hiring practices from the inside out, Kirsten breaks it all down in a way that’s clear, calm, and incredibly helpful.
Plus: Kirsten’s sharing a free job description template that’s as practical as it is thoughtful.
Whether you're building your first team or cleaning up some messy legacy systems, this conversation is here to remind you: HR doesn’t have to feel heavy—it can feel human.
Topics:
- Transitioning from Corporate to Entrepreneurship (3:35)
- The Role of HR in Small Businesses (7:54)
- Navigating Contractor vs. Employee Relationships (10:42)
- Hiring Practices and Avoiding Bias (19:01)
You can find Kirsten at:
Website: kdzhrconsulting.com
LinkedIn: /in/kirsten-zeigler-humanresources/
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